Maulana Sheikh Nazim `Arsh Above `Arsh

(Suhbah at breakfast with Shaykh Hisham Kabbani and Shaykh Adnan Kabbani.)

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: He was selling the jewels one by one until he died.

Shaykh Hisham: Sultans of Ottomans, awliyaullah.

وَقِفُوهُمْ إِنَّهُم مَّسْئُولُونَ
waqifoohum innahum masuloon. Stop them, for they will be asked. (37:24)

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: “Put me in charge of the treasures of Egypt,” Sayyidina Yusuf said. Pharoah didn't give. That was a request, “Make me in charge of treasures of Earth...” The pharaohs had wisdom to manage a government. They put themselves forward from the station of low-level people, and ... “When the affairs are in the hands of those not qualified, expect the Judgment Day.” (Hadith)

When you don't know your right or your left, how do you expect to carry millions of human beings? How did you learn that? We are following voting, and who has the most votes is at the level of a donkey! Even if they have more votes or the most votes, bring one donkey, and if it is based on votes (a pun in Arabic), the donkey knows how to bray! (laughter) Who gets the most votes, crap on them!

Shaykh Hisham: Pearls! They (mureeds) ask you about the Last Hour, where is it moving, sadaqAllahu ’l-`Azheem.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: We await the Hour for removal of trials, they await the Hour for removal of trials; until they end that they will see how to avoid falling into troubles and until then there is no way out. Egyptians, Syrians, Yemenis, Libyans, Sudanis, Tunisians, Turks, Persians are all waiting for removal of troubles. They are all in traps; they want to get out of traps but outside are more, so they are waiting. What they are in now is bad, but what is outside is worse, waiting to eat them! They fell into a trap, but if they manage to get out worse will come. na`oodhu billah min shurruri anfusina wa min sayyiaati `amaalinaa “We seek refuge in Allah from the evil of our ego and the badness of our deeds.” That is what the khateeb recites every jumu`ah. (...) This is the religion of advice, to the common folk and to the leaders, as well. Take from advice of the Prophet (s)! They fall under the verse of Holy Qur’an:

وَقِفُوهُمْ إِنَّهُم مَّسْئُولُونَ
Waqifoohum innahum masooloon. But stop them, for they are to be questioned. (As-Siffat, 37:24)

Those tyrants must be questioned! Where are mentioned “democracy” and “parliaments” mentioned? Show me in the Qur’an. waqifoohum innahum masuloon, stop them and ask them from where they brought these false concepts! (...)

Shaykh Hisham: You made our hearts happy! (...) Grandshaykh `AbdAllah al-Fa'iz ad-Daghestani (q) said, “You are like two halves of a beans, one half and one half.” We were in a room next to the bathroom. Mawlana Grandshaykh `AbdAllah made suhbat and said this is from the secrets. “You are two halves of a bean.” Therefore, he (Shaykh Adnan) is my shaykh; tea and jam together.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Yes, that is a secret.

Shaykh Hisham: There was Shaykh Ahmad Israr in the conference in Los Angeles (International Islamic Unity Conference, 1996). They insisted to bring him. He was a Wahabi. He gave his speech in the bottom of the hotel, and we were on top (floors). He said, "Those above are on the wrong way." He was from Hizb at-Tahrir. He recently died. “He (Allah) is The One not encompassed by any place or time.”

Shaykh Hisham: That is from the Maturidi belief, but he is Hanafi. laa yuheetu bihi makaan wa laa yashtamil `alayhi zamaan, “He is The One not encompassed by any place or time; they are both created, so they cannot encompass Him.”

Shaykh Adnan: And the Throne is a place.

Shaykh Hisham: For the Prophet (s).

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: “`Arsh: on it His Name is written; there is for it an `Arsh, for it an `Arsh, for it an `Arsh.” It is not possible for human beings to know their numbers. `Arshullah, ... malik al-mulook, King of Kings. There is `Arsh and Kursi, was`iya kursiyyuhu ’s-samawaati al-`ard.

Shaykh Hisham: Ibn Qayyim said that Allah created the `Arsh in order to seat the Prophet (s) on it, and he is a Wahabi.

Shaykh Adnan: No, the meaning he intended is that Allah is sitting on the `Arsh and will put the Prophet (s) with Himself on the `Arsh.

Shaykh Hisham: That is new tafsir never heard before, from you Sayyidee: `Arsh, above which is `Arsh, above which is `Arsh.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: There is appearing at every moment a new `Arsh. That is `Arsh of the world we are in. Sayyidina Ahmad ar-Rufa`i was in the Fourth Heaven and saw a huge sea, and he thought it is water, but when he came closer he saw it is made from sand, not water. He could not see its beginning, nor its end. The closer he got to each particle of sand, he found each grain in itself is an entire universe! And there he heard adhaan, calling absolutely, the Prophet is Sayyidina Muhammad (s).” He heard adhaan like our adhaan, and said this is a world and not a copy of any other one, and the Prophet (s) is the Prophet for each of these grains, which are worlds in themselves. That secret knowledge reached to Sayyidina Ahmad ar-Rufa`i (q). Allahu Akbar al-akbar!

Shaykh Hisham: May Allah grant you more and more.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: Rabbu ’l-`izzah, the Lord of Honor. “alif lam (i.e., “al-”) is to indicate His Absoluteness in a particular Name, istighraaq, to be submerged and drowned. (...)

He is the Knower of all from beginning to end, and He moves the Creation for the sake of His Beloved. ... the Creation of Allah moving ... “laa ilaha illa-Llah Muhammadun Rasoolullah” is always there. That is our grant, aja`ib, amazing, incredible. Tawbah, yaa Rabbee.


Shaykh Hisham: Mashaa-Allah, wonderful manifestations.

Mawlana Shaykh Nazim: O Allah! Have mercy on our weakness, for you are our Lord!

Shaykh Adnan: Waves of knowledge coming!

Lefke, 14.04.2011

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